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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:09 pm 
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i guess Andy Sneap is gonna produce the next Exodus CD....i wonder if it's gonna sound superb like Kreator's newest release "Hordes of Chaos"??


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Good Question...........and...........Where ya been Doug ? *beerbang*


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listening to to the new Kreator Hordes of Chaos..over again since Tuesday release date!!


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I think this album really sucks! Too much swedish melodies for one album. It's not sound as aggresive as Kreator should.


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Kreator is great musically, but the singer's voice grates on my nerves.... Just my opinion.


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The new kreator album has a great sound but the songs are so childish and with the same classic structure..


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The songs on the new record are there, but I didn't like the live feel as much. I was hoping for a much more polished sound, like the production value on Enemy Of God. But that's just me.


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MARINER wrote:
The new kreator album has a great sound but the songs are so childish and with the same classic structure..



Define "childish songs" please...


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My english are too bad but i will try..
We have a song with an impressive intro,some nice riffs and the classic(and german) chorus singing 4 times hordes of chaos...do u know the classic running wild songs??something like this...


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My english are too bad but i will try..
We have a song with an impressive intro,some nice riffs and the classic(and german) chorus singing 4 times hordes of chaos...do u know the classic running wild songs??something like this...



Maybe you are mistaking by saying "childish"
The song "Hordes of Chaos" is the IMO the best track on the new album
I wouldn't call it childish
I think childish would be more like tunes by kittie.... *banghead*


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what are you people on meth?
the new KREATOR is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

oh and its pointess to mention HORDES OF CHAOS in this thread since it WAS NOT PRODUCED BY ANDY SNEAP

check the dvd version of the cd out (only $2.00 extra)
shows you the process they went through to do this album.
no click tracks, and everyone playing together to get a raw, LIVE like feel.
The sound is damn good, and the album is killer!!!!!!!!

but, again....the album was not produced by ANDY
it was produced by Moses Schneider


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I just cant stand hear this german structure anymore..Paradox's new album is much better and original..
I think Kittie is sincere..


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xodus wrote:
what are you people on meth?
the new KREATOR is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

oh and its pointess to mention HORDES OF CHAOS in this thread since it WAS NOT PRODUCED BY ANDY SNEAP

check the dvd version of the cd out (only $2.00 extra)
shows you the process they went through to do this album.
no click tracks, and everyone playing together to get a raw, LIVE like feel.
The sound is damn good, and the album is killer!!!!!!!!

but, again....the album was not produced by ANDY
it was produced by Moses Schneider


Again, the songs are there, but I don't like the live sound on it. I think it loses some of its power if it's done with a live feel, unless it really did work. Here, not as much though.


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what are you people on meth?
the new KREATOR is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

oh and its pointess to mention HORDES OF CHAOS in this thread since it WAS NOT PRODUCED BY ANDY SNEAP

check the dvd version of the cd out (only $2.00 extra)
shows you the process they went through to do this album.
no click tracks, and everyone playing together to get a raw, LIVE like feel.
The sound is damn good, and the album is killer!!!!!!!!

but, again....the album was not produced by ANDY
it was produced by Moses Schneider
i never said Andy Sneap produced the new Kreator CD!

ALL I ASK IS..is Andy Sneap gonna produce the New EXODUS CD?
if Andy is..is it gonna sound/or going to sound like the new Kreator CD?


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Dmegametal#1!!! wrote:
xodus wrote:
what are you people on meth?
the new KREATOR is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

oh and its pointess to mention HORDES OF CHAOS in this thread since it WAS NOT PRODUCED BY ANDY SNEAP

check the dvd version of the cd out (only $2.00 extra)
shows you the process they went through to do this album.
no click tracks, and everyone playing together to get a raw, LIVE like feel.
The sound is damn good, and the album is killer!!!!!!!!

but, again....the album was not produced by ANDY
it was produced by Moses Schneider
i never said Andy Sneap produced the new Kreator CD!

ALL I ASK IS..is Andy Sneap gonna produce the New EXODUS CD?
if Andy is..is it gonna sound/or going to sound like the new Kreator CD?


Rob already confirmed that Andy will be producing the next record bro, so no worries! *beerbang*


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Great that he produces it, but i hope he makes it sound a little more "organic" in the vein of SHKM


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organic? you guys are nuts...why would you NOT want the cleanest sounds? i dont understand why you would want it to sound live,live albums are not even live...nothing is live, it sounds so much better when its tight and loud and seperated and clean...i listen to cd's because tapes sound like shit...but like I say all the time to all you guys on the web...it's just MY opinion...i want crisp,clean sounds,not mud,and i definitley like it better when it's played tight as fuck...i want to hear every drum hit, every guitar note...this organic live thing...leave that in the 80's


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^^^ Rob brings up some interesting points. Let the debate begin!

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Rob is the only person not talking shite on this thread!!! :roll:

What Sneapy has done for the Exodus sound on ALIV, TOTD, SHKM & TAE is what no other producer has done in music...period! The sound is like a musical muscle car!!! *banger*

I just can't believe that Metallica chose Rubin to do Death Magnetic! Cos if they'd have done their home work and picked Sneap then imagine how much better those songs would have sounded on record???!!!

(BTW - Ted, I do love Death Magnetic)


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Johnny Buc wrote:
Rob is the only person not talking shite on this thread!!! :roll:

What Sneapy has done for the Exodus sound on ALIV, TOTD, SHKM & TAE is what no other producer has done in music...period! The sound is like a musical muscle car!!! *banger*

I just can't believe that Metallica chose Rubin to do Death Magnetic! Cos if they'd have done their home work and picked Sneap then imagine how much better those songs would have sounded on record???!!!

(BTW - Ted, I do love Death Magnetic)


I hope that they do chose Sneap to do the next record. Let's be honest, Rubin, despite his name being on there as producer, didn't really do much producing at all. He left that up to his team to do the job for him. He was just there to guide the band to where they should be going. If they chose Rubin again, I just hope they don't let the same team work on the mixing. Sneap should be chosen for that task...if not, producing the record as a whole. I'm sure that Sneap could take them to a really good place!


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exodukes wrote:
organic? you guys are nuts...why would you NOT want the cleanest sounds? i dont understand why you would want it to sound live,live albums are not even live...nothing is live, it sounds so much better when its tight and loud and seperated and clean...i listen to cd's because tapes sound like shit...but like I say all the time to all you guys on the web...it's just MY opinion...i want crisp,clean sounds,not mud,and i definitley like it better when it's played tight as fuck...i want to hear every drum hit, every guitar note...this organic live thing...leave that in the 80's



When i say organic i dont mean "muddy " i mean "less surgical" Less "operating room where everything is sterile" more "hot rod garage"
Probably no one understands me.
"TAE" IMO is too "polished" I prefer the "greasier" production of SHKM
That is what i mean by organic.
I want tight, I want loud and crispy, but i want it to have grease slabs sticking it all together. Not muddy, just fatter. TAE IMO has extreme crispy sound but every instrument is far apart, the "grease" factor that SHKM has is missing...


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(BTW - Ted, I do love Death Magnetic)


*beerbang*

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When i say organic i dont mean "muddy " i mean "less surgical" Less "operating room where everything is sterile" more "hot rod garage"
Probably no one understands me.
"TAE" IMO is too "polished" I prefer the "greasier" production of SHKM
That is what i mean by organic.
I want tight, I want loud and crispy, but i want it to have grease slabs sticking it all together. Not muddy, just fatter. TAE IMO has extreme crispy sound but every instrument is far apart, the "grease" factor that SHKM has is missing...

That made my head hurt...I just want a new Exodus cd!!!! DAMMIT!!!!


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well ogrus...i guess we all like what we like...but i think the so called polished sound of TAE is what every band should strive for...leave the organic sounds to jam bands


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well ogrus...i guess we all like what we like...but i think the so called polished sound of TAE is what every band should strive for...leave the organic sounds to jam bands


And I think Sneap has definitely accomplished that for every Exodus record that he has worked on, so far, starting with Tempo all the way to now. I think he's one of the best things that has shaped Exodus into the beasts that they are now, so I am looking forward to seeing what magic he can polish up with you guys for TAE - EB. All I ask is that TAE-EB, Rob, is a monster. And I'm sure you guys will deliver on that! :)


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organic? you guys are nuts...why would you NOT want the cleanest sounds? i dont understand why you would want it to sound live,live albums are not even live...nothing is live, it sounds so much better when its tight and loud and seperated and clean...i listen to cd's because tapes sound like shit...but like I say all the time to all you guys on the web...it's just MY opinion...i want crisp,clean sounds,not mud,and i definitley like it better when it's played tight as fuck...i want to hear every drum hit, every guitar note...this organic live thing...leave that in the 80's



When i say organic i dont mean "muddy " i mean "less surgical" Less "operating room where everything is sterile" more "hot rod garage"
Probably no one understands me.
"TAE" IMO is too "polished" I prefer the "greasier" production of SHKM
That is what i mean by organic.
I want tight, I want loud and crispy, but i want it to have grease slabs sticking it all together. Not muddy, just fatter. TAE IMO has extreme crispy sound but every instrument is far apart, the "grease" factor that SHKM has is missing...


'Iconoclasm' seems organic to me


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exodukes wrote:
well ogrus...i guess we all like what we like...but i think the so called polished sound of TAE is what every band should strive for...leave the organic sounds to jam bands


Yeah, I have to agree.. I'm tired of the old shit sound that have been around for too long.. old music is great but sometimes the sound just want you to throw out the stereo.. and I didn't buy fcking expensive speakers to listen to nasty and bad sound *banghead*..


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well ogrus...i guess we all like what we like...but i think the so called polished sound of TAE is what every band should strive for...leave the organic sounds to jam bands


Yeah, I have to agree.. I'm tired of the old shit sound that have been around for too long.. old music is great but sometimes the sound just want you to throw out the stereo.. and I didn't buy fcking expensive speakers to listen to nasty and bad sound *banghead*..



Who is talking bout "bad sound"? I never mentioned bad sound, man, dont confuse "organic" with bad sound....
Devin Townsend is a master of "Organic" and SYL albums fuckin rip and are crystal clear. Listen to a song like "You Suck" during the chorus... that is organic!
Organic IS NOT "LIve Sound" its "Alive Sound"


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Devin Townsend is a master of "Organic" and SYL albums fuckin rip and are crystal clear.


I hated his production on lamb of god's As The Palace's Burn album!!! Only 2nd to St. Wang-er itself!!!

Sneap is the master producer, just look at the different bands he's added his touch to and you can't deny he is the best metal producer in the biz!!! *banger*

All I know is that the next Exodus album is in safe hands with him behind the desk!!! *beerbang* *beerbang* *beerbang* *beerbang*


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Johnny Buc wrote:
ogrus wrote:
Devin Townsend is a master of "Organic" and SYL albums fuckin rip and are crystal clear.


I hated his production on lamb of god's As The Palace's Burn album!!! Only 2nd to St. Wang-er itself!!!

Sneap is the master producer, just look at the different bands he's added his touch to and you can't deny he is the best metal producer in the biz!!! *banger*

All I know is that the next Exodus album is in safe hands with him behind the desk!!! *beerbang* *beerbang* *beerbang* *beerbang*


I also don't like or even enjoy the production on Palaces. That's one album they need to re-do from scratch. That and New American Gospel.


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